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Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.

by filip in

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friends

we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.

so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.

and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.

a friend in need

Bryan .. I'm sure you have filip's best interest at heart. By the same token .. don't you think his parents do too. Think they've known him a bit longer than anyone else here. Your past history ( abuse by elder father?) doesn't mean he has the same problem. Do you remember being a teenager? Everything is magnified.

I am sorry for the suffering you had. No one should minimize it. I'm sure there are people out there who've suffered as well, who may have never heard of JWs. Since I was out and now back, I can see that the world has NOTHING to offer. Just want filip to see both sides.

If after careful study, he still would like out, I'm sure his parents will make the best of it.

If you think I used an 'over used JW line' guess I could belong to any KH, couldn't I?

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Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.

by filip in

jw
friends

we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.

so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.

and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.

a friend in need

Tammy,

You make some good points. However, Filip is still a minor. All well and good to research ... I agree. When I was his age though, (looking back 20/20 and all) I was very easily swayed to take the easy way out. Parents know very little when you are 15 years old. Strange how smart they get as we age too.

As for a child being on the net .. fine .. as long as they have parental supervision. If I had a child and found out he was visiting 'grown up' sites like this, I'd soon be in touch with a mod.

Some things I see going on in KHs isn't perfect either .. but who of is? Likely see worse in other places of worship. As for a child deciding what religious belief he will have .. they can and will decide as soon as they are able to move out and support themselves in every way.

You can't force anyone to believe anything but parents are responsible to try to do the best they can. If you don't agree with what filip's parents are doing, your discussion should be with them .. not their young child! No way he should be here!!!

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Jw view of resurrection: will it be you who is resurrected???

by chuckyy in

i have always had a problem even when a jw with the wtbs view on the bodily resurrection.

if your body is destroyed following death, and there is no soul, what then is being resurrected???.

?.....its a new body and only a recording of your thoughts that was in gods memory that is put into this new body......how can it truly be the same person???

a friend in need

chucky ... 'how can that be the same person'?

Do you not believe Jesus was the same person when he was brought back? People who knew him didn't recognize him by sight but did once he spoke.

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Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.

by filip in

jw
friends

we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.

so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.

and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.

a friend in need

Dave,

You are right ... I did nothing to justify JW doctrines. Since filip lives in a Christian household, if he has a question on doctrine, I'm sure his parents can help him.

'Would he consider opinions of strangers who've had the same experiences '.... Well, I'm in that catagory too!!!!

filip is 15 years old. Should he even be on the net? Don't you agree that someone his age should still be monitored by his parents? Seeing what I see here is an eye opener! Children have no right posting here or anywhere else for that matter ... without parental consent.

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Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.

by filip in

jw
friends

we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.

so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.

and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.

a friend in need

filip,

Good to see you are a thinking person. You won't recognize me on this site, as I only look in once in a while. Your posts intigue me. When I was 15 years old, I felt a lot the same as you do. There was no internet back then and no one in the cong. that I felt I could talk to. I soon started looking at my mother as a 'no nothing'. Again, not unusual for your age.

After a few years away from the JWs, I sure appreciate them now! Believe me ... there is nothing out there that is any better than what you have. By your own admission, you live with two loving parents. Do they beat you? Do you have food and shelter? Do they have your best interests at heart ... more so than these people here ... who you only know by way of your computer?

By all means ... give the study a chance! Don't expect it to do any good if you are still posting here behind your parents backs. If you are so sure of the 'help' you are getting here, show your posts to your parents or an elder.

I am so disappointed that you could allow yourself to be swayed by complete strangers here and yet allow your family to spiritually and physically support you. I've been there .. done that. Do yourself a favor and GET OUT OF HERE!!!!

afin

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What's everybody's theme song?

by missy04 in

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friends

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so....i'm sure everybody has some songs where they listen and feel like they're the ones speaking in the lyrics... what kind of music does everybody like and what are the songs that they relate to the most?

a friend in need

FOREVER YOUNG: Rod Stewart

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Does the Bible scare anyone else here sometimes?

by missy04 in

maybe i'm just messed up, but i get really freaked out sometimes.

i can't understand the bible,.....in some places it seems like it's saying all you have to do is one or two things, then it seems like it's saying you have to do different things to be saved.... so many different people and religions have so many different takes on the bible.

i don't know which to beleive, and it scares me that if i beleived the wrong thing that i could go to hell, or just go to sleep forever as the witnesses say.

a friend in need

Double Edge:

What does that tell me about my beliefs, their beliefs and their religions? How could you possibly know their beliefs are stronger than mine? I doubt very much that you are intimately aquainted with that many people to know their true inner feelings. You certainly don't know mine.

What it does tell me is that I am among hundreds of thousands who are devout believers in our chosen faiths.

afin

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Does the Bible scare anyone else here sometimes?

by missy04 in

maybe i'm just messed up, but i get really freaked out sometimes.

i can't understand the bible,.....in some places it seems like it's saying all you have to do is one or two things, then it seems like it's saying you have to do different things to be saved.... so many different people and religions have so many different takes on the bible.

i don't know which to beleive, and it scares me that if i beleived the wrong thing that i could go to hell, or just go to sleep forever as the witnesses say.

a friend in need

Sarah:

Sounds like you have decided what you want and all I will do is wish you well. If this is really your choice, your friend will feel the same way someday. Just give her time. She only wants what is best for you. Remember that you can return if you ever change your mind. Take care,

afin

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Does the Bible scare anyone else here sometimes?

by missy04 in

maybe i'm just messed up, but i get really freaked out sometimes.

i can't understand the bible,.....in some places it seems like it's saying all you have to do is one or two things, then it seems like it's saying you have to do different things to be saved.... so many different people and religions have so many different takes on the bible.

i don't know which to beleive, and it scares me that if i beleived the wrong thing that i could go to hell, or just go to sleep forever as the witnesses say.

a friend in need

Sarah:

You say you are giving yourself a few days before you tell them how you feel. Are you refering to the elders? If you are planning to move an hour and a half away why not just say good bye to everyone and move. No one has to know your decision. This way you aren't commited in any way and also give yourself time to think things out without any pressure.

When I was eighteen I had ALL the answers. Life has a way of teaching us that all the terrific looking things on the other side of the fence aren't so green close up. Just take your time, you aren't missing out on as much as you think you are.

Take care,

afin

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Does the Bible scare anyone else here sometimes?

by missy04 in

maybe i'm just messed up, but i get really freaked out sometimes.

i can't understand the bible,.....in some places it seems like it's saying all you have to do is one or two things, then it seems like it's saying you have to do different things to be saved.... so many different people and religions have so many different takes on the bible.

i don't know which to beleive, and it scares me that if i beleived the wrong thing that i could go to hell, or just go to sleep forever as the witnesses say.

a friend in need

You all sound like a group of very nice people. I did not come on here to argue scriptures. Most of you are as familiar with the bible as I am. We can agree to disagree. My worry is that Missy will make a huge mistake, one she could very much regret in the future. My hope for her is to be sure of all her options now. Wishing everyone the best,

afin